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[GasClown]

SmokeyPSD, on 28 October 2015 - 10:25 AM, said:

I get that it can't be done for things properly using spacial location and all that but from the most basic level a lot of what's being shown like rig still is from a classic 1st person game perspective just the input is different. Most titles seem to be easily adaptable to more conventional controls like RIG, at least to me.

Half Life 2 has VR support - so it's not to say that first person shooters won't have it... but slapping VR support to a game, doesn't necessarily mean it'll be the best VR experience. The best ones will be tailored exclusively for VR. It's not necessarily the controls I'm getting at - but the experience eg. putting you at the bottom of the ocean with sharks would be a pretty boring video game, likewise with the Portal demo Valve did. With VR though, totally different 'experience'.

[SmokeyPSD]

http://bgr.com/2015/...te-play-pc-mac/

Haha! Sony haven't been always making the best decisions but this is them getting it right.  Someone puts out an unofficial and paid app at that to get remote play onto PC. Instead of coming down on him hard with litigation we're getting official support for it. Nicely played.

[Axe99]

Nice - that's deffo the way to do it.

[Axe99]

Saw this just now, I'm continually impressed by the things people come up with in game design!

[GasClown]

Playstation Neo - who's going to upgrade? What are everyones thoughts?

[Aromaci]

I have no idea what that means. is it a whole new console? If so then no. I don't have that kind of money.

[GasClown]

Aromaci, on 21 April 2016 - 04:51 AM, said:

I have no idea what that means. is it a whole new console? If so then no. I don't have that kind of money.

Well yeah - it seems that way with a GPU, CPU and RAM upgrade. Although it makes me wonder, for all those that bought the 'now' PS4 - is there going to be some sort of upgrade scheme or attachment that upgrades it for cheaper or do we have to buy the system again.

I think what they're trying to do is speed up the cycles as they can't keep up with the changing technology. So it'll be a bit more like a phone with yearly updates or perhaps every 3 years instead. Even Sony are saying they're not positive if there'll be a PS5.

[Aromaci]

Seems like a slap in the face to everyone who bought one on or just after release.

[Axe99]

I could see it going this way - and the x86 architecture should make it a lot easier.  I'll get one if/when I've got enough zip to play more of the games on it I want to, at the moment it's mainly a Netflix box with a smattering of strategy titles, so not much point to upgrading.  I'll be curious to see how they manage it - if there's some kind of "trade in your old PS4 for a significant discount" then it could work out well, if it's "here's a new $500 we want from you every 3-4 years" maybe less popular?

[GasClown]

Aromaci, on 21 April 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Seems like a slap in the face to everyone who bought one on or just after release.

It is - but it'll only be this once.

Axe99, on 21 April 2016 - 09:42 PM, said:

I could see it going this way - and the x86 architecture should make it a lot easier.  I'll get one if/when I've got enough zip to play more of the games on it I want to, at the moment it's mainly a Netflix box with a smattering of strategy titles, so not much point to upgrading.  I'll be curious to see how they manage it - if there's some kind of "trade in your old PS4 for a significant discount" then it could work out well, if it's "here's a new $500 we want from you every 3-4 years" maybe less popular?

I think it should - much like phones (which usually cost $700 - $900) get upgraded yearly so I don't think every three years is terrible. I don't update my phone every year but it still works with the latest OS and as intended.

$550 / 3 years isn't much (to me), but perhaps for the unemployed / student it is.

The problem is, will there be a divide - eg. 30FPS and 60FPS servers is one example... the latter obviously having the upper hand. How long are they going to support the older consoles for those that don't want to upgrade every 3 years (or whatever it is). How big/worthwhile vs cost is the upgrade... things like that.

I'd personally like it to be component upgrades (much like a PC) rather than the full unit. But it'd be a simple plug/snap in and play type scenario... so kind of modular I guess.

But with that said - it introduces all sorts of variables.

[SmokeyPSD]

Yeah, if you need to buy a whole new console, I fail to see how this is an incremental upgrade and just a plain new console making this a tiered, messy generation.

[econodog]

I think we need to wait and see how Sony markets the thing before making judgement. If they drop the price drastically of the base PS4 and introduce this as a new slim ps4 with 4k support, that could work. Those who desire 4k will upgrade, the rest will be happy with their existing hardware or the cheaper model. Similar to how apple releases a iphone 6 and iphone 6 plus. They both do the same thing, just one is slightly better and more expensive.

From what I understand there will be no segregation between the two player bases for online gaming, and all games released must work on both models. I won't upgrade until I have a 4k tv, which probably won't be until my current tv dies (hopefully years away).

[SmokeyPSD]

Yeah that's the big thing, if it's all just walled around 4k support it should be fine but otherwise it's going to get messy. It also means a new gpu/processor are still going to waste by design though. Even the CD attachment for the megadrive didn't work out.

[GasClown]

econodog, on 21 April 2016 - 11:57 PM, said:

From what I understand there will be no segregation between the two player bases for online gaming, and all games released must work on both models. I won't upgrade until I have a 4k tv, which probably won't be until my current tv dies (hopefully years away).

Well as Smokey said - it'd be wasted extra juice (GPU/Processor/RAM)... I mean, why have that just for 4K and then have to downgrade/scale it for games just because there's a lesser powerful console. I'd see zero point in getting it, particularly if you've already got a PS4.

[AroGantz]

After seeing how badly the PS3 performed at the end of the cycle I'm all for reducing it to 3.5-4 years, Having said that I wouldn't bother upgrading until the current model is slowing down.

[straussy240]

They should have thought about making the ps4 modular when it was designed.

[SmokeyPSD]

Yeah, I'm really not buying a new system after just getting this one for "forward compatibility".

[spectre51]

PlayStation just announced a September event, where it will likely unveil the PlayStation 4 successor

Sony PlayStation on Tuesday afternoon sent invites for an event on September 7 called “PlayStation Meeting,” where the company will “share details about the PlayStation business.”

Earlier today, reports from Vice Gaming and Gameblog claimed PlayStation would hold an event that day to unveil its PlayStation 4 Neo, also known as the PlayStation 4.5.

If you’re unfamiliar, the Neo is expected to play all the current PlayStation 4 games out there, but offer more horsepower for better graphics and frame rates. It’s expected to also support 4K games, movies, and TV shows.

With that extra horsepower, the Neo will likely be the ideal console to power the company’s upcoming virtual reality headset, PlayStation VR, which arrives in October.

We look forward to learning more about the PlayStation 4 successor on September 7. The event starts at 3 p.m. ET.

Source: businessinsider

So think that's like 5am on Thursday 8th for us. Be good to finally get some actual information about it.

[Axe99]

Cheers for the latest All-knowing Spec .  Will be interesting to see how this thing pan out...

[Aromaci]

I read the title and thought it was talking about the PS5! Rather misleading.